For the best possible booking experience it is suggested that you view this page and purchase your tickets on our Design My Night page. A direct link can be found on our Events page.
Season of the Vessel is a special month-long season of Aeturnum, told across numerous systems, as you relive the final days of the Old World.
The year is ████. Before Adrestia rose from its ashes, the Old World made contact with the Gods. Every breakthrough born from this forbidden union drove humanity closer to ruin, as the laws of science and magic were irreparably broken. This is the story of those final days. Of the precious few lives that would stand against, and become entangled in this doomed cycle.
Each quest in this season is entirely stand-alone, and intended to be a beginner friendly introduction to the system. Please be sure to read the description for each quest for information regarding the system, character creation and content warnings.
If you are a new player looking to join Aeturnum, be sure to book on and play the Prologue: AS ABOVE first. Tickets for the next event can be found on our website here. Please note, this season is a standalone prequel to the current ongoing Masquerade storyline.
The Quests you can accept this chapter are:
FIRST DRAFT (Call of Cthulhu)
THE
STORY: Hunt for the vanished author Jacquetta Iverson,
whose unnervingly prophetic fiction hints that the most dangerous
thing you can face might be the words on the page.
CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre-gens will be
supplied, with rules explained at the table. A set of polyhedral
dice, a pencil, and an eraser will be required.
CONTENT WARNINGS: Suicide, suicidal ideation, coercion, sanity and mental breakdown mechanics, horror, body horror, gore, violence, religious themes, mass death.
STIGMATA (10 Candles)
THE
STORY: Ten▼S̶͎̉ĩ̵̯x̵̽ͅ ̴́H̵̢̍u̶n̷̥͊d̷̠̑r̸̪̀ę̶̆d̵̺̆
̶̦͌a̵̻͛n̴̛̻d̴̥̃ ̴̪̓N̶̈́͜i̵̛ͅņ̸̿ĕ̶͓t̶͙̑y̵̟̾ F̸̈́͜o̶̱̓u̸͖͋r̵̴̦̉͛ͅ
days ago the sky opened.
A great shadow enveloped the streets of New Lamora, and as a vast
Draconic corpse crashed into the city below, the world went
dark.
Then the darkness stirred. Ushering in the end of humanity with its
song.
A group of ordinary strangers from across the ruins of the City
must fight to survive, in their last hope of reaching
salvation.
CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre Gens will not
be provided. Characters will be created at the table.
CONTENT WARNINGS: Entirely Roleplay Based, Betrayal,
Dark Themes, Death, Desperation, Hopelessness, Horror, Voice
Recording, Memory Loss, Paranoia, Peril, Possible Suicidal Themes,
Religious Trauma
Self Sacrifice, Struggle, Survival Horror, Tragedy,
Violence.
PAREIDOLIA (Dread)
THE STORY: Join the brilliant AEGIS scientist, Dr. Lucille ██████ and investigate Valmont. A remote city plagued by horrific reality-altering phenomena, and the secret that you buried so long ago.
Remember your Promise.
CHARACTER CREATION
& ADDITIONAL INFO: Dread is a rules-lite survival horror
system, with brief character creation and core rules explained at
the table.
CONTENT WARNINGS: Heavy Roleplay, Psychological and
Horror Themes, Player Death, Graphic Violence, Gun Violence, Gore,
Body Horror, Drug Use, Surgical Trauma, Vehicle Accidents, Memory
Loss, Hypnosis, Terminal Illness, Suicide and Suicidal Ideation,
Familial Trauma, Paranoia, Claustrophobia.
CONTINGENCY (The Beast x Honey Heist)
THE STORY: Contingency is a play-to-lose descent into cosmic horror, built on the bones of The Beast and Honey Heist systems. You play as specialists in a black-ops unit sent to an arctic research station at the edge of the world after all communication has been lost.
What you find inside will peel open your psyche, manifesting phobias and mutating your bodies as you descend into a nightmare of eldritch threats and inevitable doom.
CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Character Creation will be handled at the start of the session.
CONTENT WARNINGS: Body horror & mutation, Psychological horror (phobias, hallucinations, obsession), Eldritch / cosmic horror, Character death & doomed outcomes, Violence & injury, Isolation, confinement, and environmental peril (cold, darkness, disorientation), Paranoia, loss of control, and identity breakdown, Blood, gore, and unsettling transformations, Stressful or despairing tone, Medical imagery, needles, and lab experimentation, Creeping or swarming creatures, Audio/visual distortion themes.
PLEASE NOTE: All sessions begin at 6:30 promptly. If you arrive after this time, we may not be able to seat you at a table. We suggest arriving 15 minutes before the ticketed start time to ensure that you have time to settle in and grab a drink!
| Ticket | Event time | Cost |
|---|---|---|
FIRST DRAFT - 1 x Player Ticket
AETURNUM: SEASON OF THE VESSELFor the best possible booking experience it is suggested that you view this page and purchase your tickets on our Design My Night page. A direct link can be found on our Events page. Season of the Vessel is a special month-long season of Aeturnum, told across numerous systems, as you relive the final days of the Old World. Before Adrestia rose from its ashes, the Old World made contact with the Gods. Every breakthrough born from this forbidden union drove humanity closer to ruin, as the laws of science and magic were irreparably broken. This is the story of those final days. Of the precious few lives that would stand against, and become entangled in this doomed cycle. Each quest in this season is entirely stand-alone, and intended to be a beginner friendly introduction to the system. Please be sure to read the description for each quest for information regarding the system, character creation and content warnings. If you are a new player looking to join Aeturnum, be sure to book on and play the Prologue: AS ABOVE first. Tickets for the next event can be found on our website here. Please note, this season is a standalone prequel to the current ongoing Masquerade storyline. The Quests you can accept this chapter are: FIRST DRAFT (Call of Cthulhu) THE STORY: Hunt for the vanished author Jacquetta Iverson, whose unnervingly prophetic fiction hints that the most dangerous thing you can face might be the words on the page. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre-gens will be supplied, with rules explained at the table. A set of polyhedral dice, a pencil, and an eraser will be required. CONTENT WARNINGS: Suicide, suicidal ideation, coercion, sanity and mental breakdown mechanics, horror, body horror, gore, violence, religious themes, mass death. STIGMATA (10 Candles) THE STORY: Ten▼S̶͎̉ĩ̵̯x̵̽ͅ ̴́H̵̢̍u̶n̷̥͊d̷̠̑r̸̪̀ę̶̆d̵̺̆ ̶̦͌a̵̻͛n̴̛̻d̴̥̃ ̴̪̓N̶̈́͜i̵̛ͅņ̸̿ĕ̶͓t̶͙̑y̵̟̾ F̸̈́͜o̶̱̓u̸͖͋r̵̴̦̉͛ͅ days ago the sky opened. A great shadow enveloped the streets of New Lamora, and as a vast Draconic corpse crashed into the city below, the world went dark. Then the darkness stirred. Ushering in the end of humanity with its song. A group of ordinary strangers from across the ruins of the City must fight to survive, in their last hope of reaching salvation. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre Gens will not be provided. Characters will be created at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Entirely Roleplay Based, Betrayal, Dark Themes, Death, Desperation, Hopelessness, Horror, Voice Recording, Memory Loss, Paranoia, Peril, Possible Suicidal Themes, Religious Trauma Self Sacrifice, Struggle, Survival Horror, Tragedy, Violence. PAREIDOLIA (Dread) THE STORY: Join the brilliant AEGIS scientist, Dr. Lucille ██████ and investigate Valmont. A remote city plagued by reality-altering phenomena, and a long-buried secret. Remember your Promise. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Dread is a rules-lite survival horror system, with brief character creation and core rules explained at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Heavy Roleplay, Horror Themes, Player Death, Graphic Violence, Gun Violence, Gore, Body Horror, Drug Use, Surgical Trauma, Vehicle Accidents, Memory Loss, Hypnosis, Terminal Illness, Suicide and Suicidal Ideation, Familial Trauma, Paranoia, Claustrophobia. CONTINGENCY (The Beast x Honey Heist) THE STORY: Contingency is a play-to-lose descent into cosmic horror, built on the bones of The Beast and Honey Heist systems. You play as specialists in a black-ops unit sent to an arctic research station at the edge of the world after all communication has been lost. What you find inside will peel open your psyche, manifesting phobias and mutating your bodies as you descend into a nightmare of eldritch threats and inevitable doom. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Character Creation will be handled at the start of the session. CONTENT WARNINGS: Body horror & mutation, Psychological horror (phobias, hallucinations, obsession), Eldritch / cosmic horror, Character death & doomed outcomes, Violence & injury, Isolation, confinement, and environmental peril (cold, darkness, disorientation), Paranoia, loss of control, and identity breakdown, Blood, gore, and unsettling transformations, Stressful or despairing tone, Medical imagery, needles, and lab experimentation, Creeping or swarming creatures, Audio/visual distortion themes. PLEASE NOTE: All sessions begin at 6:30 promptly. If you arrive after this time, we may not be able to seat you at a table. We suggest arriving 15 minutes before the ticketed start time to ensure that you have time to settle in and grab a drink! All ticket purchases are final, however we offer flexible ticket exchange options on our Discord. For more information and help joining, you can contact us at sales@alchemygames.uk |
18:30 - 22:00 | £15.00 |
STIGMATA - 1 x Player Ticket
AETURNUM: SEASON OF THE VESSELFor the best possible booking experience it is suggested that you view this page and purchase your tickets on our Design My Night page. A direct link can be found on our Events page. Season of the Vessel is a special month-long season of Aeturnum, told across numerous systems, as you relive the final days of the Old World. Before Adrestia rose from its ashes, the Old World made contact with the Gods. Every breakthrough born from this forbidden union drove humanity closer to ruin, as the laws of science and magic were irreparably broken. This is the story of those final days. Of the precious few lives that would stand against, and become entangled in this doomed cycle. Each quest in this season is entirely stand-alone, and intended to be a beginner friendly introduction to the system. Please be sure to read the description for each quest for information regarding the system, character creation and content warnings. If you are a new player looking to join Aeturnum, be sure to book on and play the Prologue: AS ABOVE first. Tickets for the next event can be found on our website here. Please note, this season is a standalone prequel to the current ongoing Masquerade storyline. The Quests you can accept this chapter are: FIRST DRAFT (Call of Cthulhu) THE STORY: Hunt for the vanished author Jacquetta Iverson, whose unnervingly prophetic fiction hints that the most dangerous thing you can face might be the words on the page. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre-gens will be supplied, with rules explained at the table. A set of polyhedral dice, a pencil, and an eraser will be required. CONTENT WARNINGS: Suicide, suicidal ideation, coercion, sanity and mental breakdown mechanics, horror, body horror, gore, violence, religious themes, mass death. STIGMATA (10 Candles) THE STORY: Ten▼S̶͎̉ĩ̵̯x̵̽ͅ ̴́H̵̢̍u̶n̷̥͊d̷̠̑r̸̪̀ę̶̆d̵̺̆ ̶̦͌a̵̻͛n̴̛̻d̴̥̃ ̴̪̓N̶̈́͜i̵̛ͅņ̸̿ĕ̶͓t̶͙̑y̵̟̾ F̸̈́͜o̶̱̓u̸͖͋r̵̴̦̉͛ͅ days ago the sky opened. A great shadow enveloped the streets of New Lamora, and as a vast Draconic corpse crashed into the city below, the world went dark. Then the darkness stirred. Ushering in the end of humanity with its song. A group of ordinary strangers from across the ruins of the City must fight to survive, in their last hope of reaching salvation. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre Gens will not be provided. Characters will be created at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Entirely Roleplay Based, Betrayal, Dark Themes, Death, Desperation, Hopelessness, Horror, Voice Recording, Memory Loss, Paranoia, Peril, Possible Suicidal Themes, Religious Trauma Self Sacrifice, Struggle, Survival Horror, Tragedy, Violence. PAREIDOLIA (Dread) THE STORY: Join the brilliant AEGIS scientist, Dr. Lucille ██████ and investigate Valmont. A remote city plagued by reality-altering phenomena, and a long-buried secret. Remember your Promise. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Dread is a rules-lite survival horror system, with brief character creation and core rules explained at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Heavy Roleplay, Horror Themes, Player Death, Graphic Violence, Gun Violence, Gore, Body Horror, Drug Use, Surgical Trauma, Vehicle Accidents, Memory Loss, Hypnosis, Terminal Illness, Suicide and Suicidal Ideation, Familial Trauma, Paranoia, Claustrophobia. CONTINGENCY (The Beast x Honey Heist) THE STORY: Contingency is a play-to-lose descent into cosmic horror, built on the bones of The Beast and Honey Heist systems. You play as specialists in a black-ops unit sent to an arctic research station at the edge of the world after all communication has been lost. What you find inside will peel open your psyche, manifesting phobias and mutating your bodies as you descend into a nightmare of eldritch threats and inevitable doom. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Character Creation will be handled at the start of the session. CONTENT WARNINGS: Body horror & mutation, Psychological horror (phobias, hallucinations, obsession), Eldritch / cosmic horror, Character death & doomed outcomes, Violence & injury, Isolation, confinement, and environmental peril (cold, darkness, disorientation), Paranoia, loss of control, and identity breakdown, Blood, gore, and unsettling transformations, Stressful or despairing tone, Medical imagery, needles, and lab experimentation, Creeping or swarming creatures, Audio/visual distortion themes. PLEASE NOTE: All sessions begin at 6:30 promptly. If you arrive after this time, we may not be able to seat you at a table. We suggest arriving 15 minutes before the ticketed start time to ensure that you have time to settle in and grab a drink! All ticket purchases are final, however we offer flexible ticket exchange options on our Discord. For more information and help joining, you can contact us at sales@alchemygames.uk |
18:30 - 22:00 | £15.00 |
PAREIDOLIA - 1 x Player Ticket
AETURNUM: SEASON OF THE VESSELFor the best possible booking experience it is suggested that you view this page and purchase your tickets on our Design My Night page. A direct link can be found on our Events page. Season of the Vessel is a special month-long season of Aeturnum, told across numerous systems, as you relive the final days of the Old World. Before Adrestia rose from its ashes, the Old World made contact with the Gods. Every breakthrough born from this forbidden union drove humanity closer to ruin, as the laws of science and magic were irreparably broken. This is the story of those final days. Of the precious few lives that would stand against, and become entangled in this doomed cycle. Each quest in this season is entirely stand-alone, and intended to be a beginner friendly introduction to the system. Please be sure to read the description for each quest for information regarding the system, character creation and content warnings. If you are a new player looking to join Aeturnum, be sure to book on and play the Prologue: AS ABOVE first. Tickets for the next event can be found on our website here. Please note, this season is a standalone prequel to the current ongoing Masquerade storyline. The Quests you can accept this chapter are: FIRST DRAFT (Call of Cthulhu) THE STORY: Hunt for the vanished author Jacquetta Iverson, whose unnervingly prophetic fiction hints that the most dangerous thing you can face might be the words on the page. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre-gens will be supplied, with rules explained at the table. A set of polyhedral dice, a pencil, and an eraser will be required. CONTENT WARNINGS: Suicide, suicidal ideation, coercion, sanity and mental breakdown mechanics, horror, body horror, gore, violence, religious themes, mass death. STIGMATA (10 Candles) THE STORY: Ten▼S̶͎̉ĩ̵̯x̵̽ͅ ̴́H̵̢̍u̶n̷̥͊d̷̠̑r̸̪̀ę̶̆d̵̺̆ ̶̦͌a̵̻͛n̴̛̻d̴̥̃ ̴̪̓N̶̈́͜i̵̛ͅņ̸̿ĕ̶͓t̶͙̑y̵̟̾ F̸̈́͜o̶̱̓u̸͖͋r̵̴̦̉͛ͅ days ago the sky opened. A great shadow enveloped the streets of New Lamora, and as a vast Draconic corpse crashed into the city below, the world went dark. Then the darkness stirred. Ushering in the end of humanity with its song. A group of ordinary strangers from across the ruins of the City must fight to survive, in their last hope of reaching salvation. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre Gens will not be provided. Characters will be created at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Entirely Roleplay Based, Betrayal, Dark Themes, Death, Desperation, Hopelessness, Horror, Voice Recording, Memory Loss, Paranoia, Peril, Possible Suicidal Themes, Religious Trauma Self Sacrifice, Struggle, Survival Horror, Tragedy, Violence. PAREIDOLIA (Dread) THE STORY: Join the brilliant AEGIS scientist, Dr. Lucille ██████ and investigate Valmont. A remote city plagued by reality-altering phenomena, and a long-buried secret. Remember your Promise. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Dread is a rules-lite survival horror system, with brief character creation and core rules explained at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Heavy Roleplay, Horror Themes, Player Death, Graphic Violence, Gun Violence, Gore, Body Horror, Drug Use, Surgical Trauma, Vehicle Accidents, Memory Loss, Hypnosis, Terminal Illness, Suicide and Suicidal Ideation, Familial Trauma, Paranoia, Claustrophobia. CONTINGENCY (The Beast x Honey Heist) THE STORY: Contingency is a play-to-lose descent into cosmic horror, built on the bones of The Beast and Honey Heist systems. You play as specialists in a black-ops unit sent to an arctic research station at the edge of the world after all communication has been lost. What you find inside will peel open your psyche, manifesting phobias and mutating your bodies as you descend into a nightmare of eldritch threats and inevitable doom. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Character Creation will be handled at the start of the session. CONTENT WARNINGS: Body horror & mutation, Psychological horror (phobias, hallucinations, obsession), Eldritch / cosmic horror, Character death & doomed outcomes, Violence & injury, Isolation, confinement, and environmental peril (cold, darkness, disorientation), Paranoia, loss of control, and identity breakdown, Blood, gore, and unsettling transformations, Stressful or despairing tone, Medical imagery, needles, and lab experimentation, Creeping or swarming creatures, Audio/visual distortion themes. PLEASE NOTE: All sessions begin at 6:30 promptly. If you arrive after this time, we may not be able to seat you at a table. We suggest arriving 15 minutes before the ticketed start time to ensure that you have time to settle in and grab a drink! All ticket purchases are final, however we offer flexible ticket exchange options on our Discord. For more information and help joining, you can contact us at sales@alchemygames.uk |
18:30 - 22:00 | £15.00 |
CONTINGENCY - 1 x Player Ticket
AETURNUM: SEASON OF THE VESSELFor the best possible booking experience it is suggested that you view this page and purchase your tickets on our Design My Night page. A direct link can be found on our Events page. Season of the Vessel is a special month-long season of Aeturnum, told across numerous systems, as you relive the final days of the Old World. Before Adrestia rose from its ashes, the Old World made contact with the Gods. Every breakthrough born from this forbidden union drove humanity closer to ruin, as the laws of science and magic were irreparably broken. This is the story of those final days. Of the precious few lives that would stand against, and become entangled in this doomed cycle. Each quest in this season is entirely stand-alone, and intended to be a beginner friendly introduction to the system. Please be sure to read the description for each quest for information regarding the system, character creation and content warnings. If you are a new player looking to join Aeturnum, be sure to book on and play the Prologue: AS ABOVE first. Tickets for the next event can be found on our website here. Please note, this season is a standalone prequel to the current ongoing Masquerade storyline. The Quests you can accept this chapter are: FIRST DRAFT (Call of Cthulhu) THE STORY: Hunt for the vanished author Jacquetta Iverson, whose unnervingly prophetic fiction hints that the most dangerous thing you can face might be the words on the page. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre-gens will be supplied, with rules explained at the table. A set of polyhedral dice, a pencil, and an eraser will be required. CONTENT WARNINGS: Suicide, suicidal ideation, coercion, sanity and mental breakdown mechanics, horror, body horror, gore, violence, religious themes, mass death. STIGMATA (10 Candles) THE STORY: Ten▼S̶͎̉ĩ̵̯x̵̽ͅ ̴́H̵̢̍u̶n̷̥͊d̷̠̑r̸̪̀ę̶̆d̵̺̆ ̶̦͌a̵̻͛n̴̛̻d̴̥̃ ̴̪̓N̶̈́͜i̵̛ͅņ̸̿ĕ̶͓t̶͙̑y̵̟̾ F̸̈́͜o̶̱̓u̸͖͋r̵̴̦̉͛ͅ days ago the sky opened. A great shadow enveloped the streets of New Lamora, and as a vast Draconic corpse crashed into the city below, the world went dark. Then the darkness stirred. Ushering in the end of humanity with its song. A group of ordinary strangers from across the ruins of the City must fight to survive, in their last hope of reaching salvation. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Pre Gens will not be provided. Characters will be created at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Entirely Roleplay Based, Betrayal, Dark Themes, Death, Desperation, Hopelessness, Horror, Voice Recording, Memory Loss, Paranoia, Peril, Possible Suicidal Themes, Religious Trauma Self Sacrifice, Struggle, Survival Horror, Tragedy, Violence. PAREIDOLIA (Dread) THE STORY: Join the brilliant AEGIS scientist, Dr. Lucille ██████ and investigate Valmont. A remote city plagued by reality-altering phenomena, and a long-buried secret. Remember your Promise. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Dread is a rules-lite survival horror system, with brief character creation and core rules explained at the table. CONTENT WARNINGS: Heavy Roleplay, Horror Themes, Player Death, Graphic Violence, Gun Violence, Gore, Body Horror, Drug Use, Surgical Trauma, Vehicle Accidents, Memory Loss, Hypnosis, Terminal Illness, Suicide and Suicidal Ideation, Familial Trauma, Paranoia, Claustrophobia. CONTINGENCY (The Beast x Honey Heist) THE STORY: Contingency is a play-to-lose descent into cosmic horror, built on the bones of The Beast and Honey Heist systems. You play as specialists in a black-ops unit sent to an arctic research station at the edge of the world after all communication has been lost. What you find inside will peel open your psyche, manifesting phobias and mutating your bodies as you descend into a nightmare of eldritch threats and inevitable doom. CHARACTER CREATION & ADDITIONAL INFO: Character Creation will be handled at the start of the session. CONTENT WARNINGS: Body horror & mutation, Psychological horror (phobias, hallucinations, obsession), Eldritch / cosmic horror, Character death & doomed outcomes, Violence & injury, Isolation, confinement, and environmental peril (cold, darkness, disorientation), Paranoia, loss of control, and identity breakdown, Blood, gore, and unsettling transformations, Stressful or despairing tone, Medical imagery, needles, and lab experimentation, Creeping or swarming creatures, Audio/visual distortion themes. PLEASE NOTE: All sessions begin at 6:30 promptly. If you arrive after this time, we may not be able to seat you at a table. We suggest arriving 15 minutes before the ticketed start time to ensure that you have time to settle in and grab a drink! All ticket purchases are final, however we offer flexible ticket exchange options on our Discord. For more information and help joining, you can contact us at sales@alchemygames.uk |
18:30 - 22:00 | £15.00 |
Address
The Arcanist's Tavern, 87-91 Hackney Road, Hackney Road, London, E2 8FE
Nearest Station
Hoxton (Rail)
Refunds: All ticket purchases are final, however we offer flexible ticket exchange options on our Discord. For more information and help joining, you can contact us at sales@alchemygames.uk
Code of Conduct: We expect all players to read and abide by our Code of Conduct at all times. This can be found here: https://arcaniststavern.uk/safety. Any breach of our code of conduct will lead to a cautioning or permanent ban from the venue.
Lateness: All sessions begin at 6:30PM promptly. If you arrive after this time we may not be able to guide you to your table. In these instances you will not be refunded. We suggest arriving at least 15 minutes before the ticketed start time for the best experience.
Outside Food: We are an independent business, and do not allow outside food or drink to be consumed on the premises.
Animals: We do not allow animals to attend any of our ticketed events, partnered or otherwise. This is due to sensory, allergy and trigger issues.